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  1. #46
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    This seems very strange to me.

    It took Chris, at the top of this thread, to announce the first 2009 concert dates. Why? Why isn't the webmaster or management taking a more active role? And nothing new added for what? - at least a month now.

    Why all this guessing? While other bands and other tours are being announced - and many major venues and shows are already mostly booked for the summer - we're left to scrounge other websites and try to piece together information that may or may not be accurate.

    If this is planned, then it's a lousy plan. What's the point of keeping committed fans - and casual readers here who might WANT to me committed fans - in the dark? Is it just to build up "excitement"? Bah! Seems more like a way just to maintain "control".

    And if it's not planned, then it's an indication of dysfunction on the part of management for not getting a plan in place or communicating it clearly.

    Either way, it's a disservice to fans and not a way to generate good will.

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    I agree

    Yes I am sorry to say that I have to agree with Kim because I actually hold off making vacation plans until the dates are up and to me it seems like it is taking a little long ( IMO) and possibly a lil' controlled for whatever reasons but I suppose for good reasons. So sadly I may miss out on my regularly planned attempt to catch a show because I have to move forward with my family's summer plans. I hate having to miss a good Fixx!

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    I don't think it's intentional nor that info is being held back. Listening to the last podcast, I think it is what it is. Once they know or things are confirmed, we find out. If info is put out too soon and changes, it makes them look bad. So, they wait until much is certain. When the wrong info gets out, everyone gets bitched out for "misinformation" and most of that is out of anyone's control anyway.

    The music/touring industry is a completely different animal in this economy. Unless you're the puppet of a huge record company playing massive venues, it's very hard to make solid bookings. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

    But the tours are coming. Something is happening. Wish I had personal influence with club owners or any venue to make it easier. Meanwhile, I'll offer up my backyard : ) We have bleachers and a huge parkinglot feet away *L* I ain't worried about the po-po shutting it down either. hee-hee. *dreaming*

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    Not sure what the ranting is about, except frustration, which is understandable.

    Management has told both me, Ed and even Cy that there may be more dates. So, that's what we tell you. That's all we've got right now. No teasing is intended. This is a complicated issue.

    The marketplace for live music pretty much sucks right now. Unless you are U2 or Miley Cyrus. So, the booking agents are trying to do the best they can. But it's hard. You need gigs that pay enough to make it worth coming over here. You need gigs close enough together that you don't spend all your profit getting from one city to the next. We are in a severe economic downturn, which means that not as many people are going out to see bands, clubs are losing money and communities that might have a big fair with music are seeing their budgets cut. That's reality. And this situation is screwing with scheduling all over the place.

    If The Fixx played an area event last summer or within maybe the last five years, there is often a challenge in getting them booked there again, at least for a while. Oversaturation is the issue. Gigs worry that crowds won't turn up. That's understandable. So, what's the solution? Well, they could go off the road for a couple of years. Create a demand. How would that be? Frankly, we are lucky to get the gigs we get. Do we hope there will be more added. You bet.

    I have found in my brief foray into this business that it is run on optimism. Generally, everybody is hoping a tour, an album, an opportunity comes together. If we didn't hope, hope, hope some of it could actually happen, we wouldn't get out of bed in the morning. So, when the manager tells us that the bookers are working on more dates...we have to believe them. You can choose not to. That's your prerogative. I do try to be honest about the vagaries of things also.

    It's unfortunate that plans don't always work out. I can speak to Cy's tour. Yeah, we announced it here. We were very excited. I could have said nothing about the effort in advance, I suppose, and spared people disappointment, but I truly think that people are interested and want to know what's in the offing. Their excitement is important to the energy of the effort. Then the bookers worked their butts off to try to set something up. I could have released a couple of tentative schedules at a couple of points, but they would have been wrong, wrong wrong and it would have been irresponsible of me. In the end, it just couldn't happen. Not enough dates close enough together to make it fly. I think it's working out for the best on many levels (I won't go into here). Fall will be better.

    I have known that Cy was planning to tour with Nick H. for a couple of weeks, but I kept it pretty close to the vest and didn't talk about it here. The last thing I wanted was for some fantastic zealous fan to book an airplane ticket. This isn't Cy's tour, it's Nick's and who knows what could happen, what might fall through at the last moment? So, I waited until the last minute to announce it here. I tipped the UK fans I knew of who would have the easiest time getting there, making it clear that things could go pear-shaped. So far, so good.

    It's funny. I remember the old days before indie music when everything was orchestrated by powerful labels who coordinated massive marketing plans with release dates and tour dates and all that. Records were done 6 or 9 months before they were put in the marketplace. Absolute total control. To some extent, acts like U2 and Madonna still have that luxury. But things are different now. Cy is finishing a CD in mid April and it's going to be for sale in May. It's craziness. Awesome craziness.

    Anyway, I'm sure there is no intention to mislead anyone or keep anyone hanging It isn't about taking an active role (seriously, the right people are bothered and cajoled for info regularly). It's about having something substantive to say. It's about doing as much as we can with limited resources. Very sorry that can make it hard for people who want to be supportive to make plans and things. If it makes you feel any better, Cy's hanging too -- happy to keep busy for now, looking forward to coming over for the next gigs, no matter how many there end up being...
    Lisa



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    how about;

    the worlds biggest music festival;
    SUMMERFEST/ Milwaukee

    it's been about 5 years now since they're last visited
    gee-bee

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    Just a bit of advice.

    Typically, the way this works is that event and venue bookers see announcements from booking agencies about who is available. Then, if they are interested, they respond to get details about dates and cost, etc.

    If you want the Fixx to play in your area...in advance, approach the booker at a venue that makes sense (you can usually find out this person on their website). Establish a connection. Make them aware that you are a regular patron of the club and like the music they are bringing there.

    The next time you see the booker, mention that the best live shows you've seen have been The Fixx. Tell them you think they'd sound great in the venue. Tell them if they come there, you'll bring all your friends, your office, whatever.

    If you are connected to some other fans in your area, try to get organized and take turns. The more people who seem interested, the better. Some venue websites solicit suggestions on who to book. These are clubs that are probably easier to approach, since they already show an interest in what their patrons want.

    The rest is in the hands of fate...but you've put the good vibe out there. Requests to play clubs and event here on the forum likely don't get seen by anybody who can actually make it happen.
    Lisa



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    Originally posted by musegirl
    The last thing I wanted was for some fantastic zealous fan to book an airplane ticket.
    Lisa, you know me way too well, and don't worry, you can name [Carrie] names! hehehe!

    Seriously, I think a trip to the UK is a ways off even for me...

    And more seriously, thanks to everyone involved for doing all you can, and handling this the way you have. I've accepted that going to see the Fixx every year means a big road/out-of-state trip, and plan my vacation time and budget around a few of their dates every year (I am blessed that my family is close and we can work get-togethers out during weekends/holidays, and that I'm now working for a boss who lets people book vacation as events come up, risking of course that someone else may book sooner). Dan also teases me that one of these vacations, we're going to do something that doesn't involve the Fixx We'll see!
    Maybe on course to the best yet!

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    Thanks Lisa

    Thank you MuseGirl for giving us clarification and some insight on what it takes to get a venue booked! I retract my anxious statements!

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    Yes Musegirl, so good of you to give us an inside look at the difficulties and challenges involved in putting together a tour. Your vivid description of what actually goes down to make that happen was a real eye-opener.

    Hence we can be grateful to all those who are trying to bring us our favorite band, and appreciate them all the more for it.

    A big pat on the back.......


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    Tix for the Regina, SK show go on sale in less than an hour... (Is there a "chewing your fingernails in anticipation" smiley available??)

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    Got 'em! Front and center!

    QUESTION:
    Does anyone know, by chance, if the band would welcome cameras at the show? I know that typical Casino policy is "no cameras" but if the band gives the "OK" would they allow them?
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    Those are my fave seats - enjoy! The venue at Green Valley Ranch in Henderson, NV always has "no digital photography" signs posted, but security has never stopped people from taking pics, or even video. Having said that, I'm sure it depends more on the casino than anything else, and I don't know that the band says anything to the venue about "pics are okay", but I'd say if the casino doesn't have a problem with it, the band won't either.
    Maybe on course to the best yet!

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    Thanks for the response, Carrie -- I checked with Ed, and he said that cameras should be ok, just to not use flash...

    And if I have problems with the venue, I have a contact to ask for!

    We booked our hotel yesterday as well, king suite in a hotel near the casino...

    Now, if we can win some money at the casino too, it'll be the BEST WEEKEND EVER!!!

    Phil.
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    Hi all ! Alot goes into planning tours and such , it would drive me nuts . Can't wait to see the Florida dates . Right now we are planning to go to the Connecticut show.........have a great weekend all , brad

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    Originally posted by bradluke0
    Right now we are planning to go to the Connecticut show...
    You are? Cool! Barring any dates that may get scheduled that would change your plans, we can't wait to see you in June!
    Maybe on course to the best yet!

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